Meeting with President Chavez  

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n Monday 15th May, I was really pleased to be able to represent the Union at the TUC when Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez came to Congress House to say thank you for the support that British unions have given to the Venezuelan revolution.

This is a revolutionary who has won 10 elections and plebiscites in as many years, who survived an attempted army/big business coup when a million Venezuelans turned out to demand his release, who stands condemned by the USA for such 'provocative acts' as launching a massive - and very successful - literacy campaign, and other grass roots "misiones", led by grass roots leaders, to attack poverty, disease, bad housing etc.

He is outspoken against the US neoliberal agenda, and outspoken in support of others in Latin American that put the needs of people before profit. Unforgivably, as far as the US is concerned, that includes support for and from Cuba - and the establishment of a trading relationship with Cuba, Bolivia and others that reject US economic control of the region.

At the TUC he was immediately and by turn engaging, philosophical, down-to-earth, radical, funny, charismatic and - very clearly - genuine.

Hugo Chavez lays great store by communication - the previous night he had spoken for nearly 4 hours at a rally in Camden! At home, he insists that every letter and note to him gets an individual and useful reply from his office. He runs a regular frequent uncensored TV phone-in programme called "Allo Presidente". He habitually takes to the streets to meet and talk with "ordinary people"

He spoke of the visit to London 200 years ago of Simon Bolivar, the great anti-imperialist fighter who had a vision of a united Latin America, and whose name is now applied to the Venezuelan "Bolivarian" revolution. He spoke of the British Industrial Revolution, the growth of capitalism and the birth of the working class as being the ground which allowed the "seed of thought" to grow. As capitalism swept away the barbarity of feudalism, creating its own cruelty, he said, strong Socialist thought developed. He pointed out that Karl Marx had lived and worked in London and, he said, "though he's buried here, they can't bury his ideas - though they try hard!"

He went on to think aloud about the "primitive socialism of the Incas" and other indigenous South American peoples, and the new kind of socialist ideas and organisation born out of the industrial revolution and the class struggle. He suggested that British workers have a unique role to play in the development of 21st Century socialism, but warned..."if you oppose neoliberal exploitation, ecological damage, war - if you propose a socialist alternative - the US will come for you."

He said that there was "no time to lose in developing the alternative to imperialism, an alternative that will provide security for workers in housing, health, education, jobs, pay and pensions" - and maintained that a network of Trade Unions was key to such an alternative.

When referring to workers' security, he explained how his Government had decided to make the Bank of Venezuela non profit making, and that it was now helping to finance workers' co-operatives and small businesses amongst the previously unemployed. Suddenly he stopped in thought, and then asked one of his embassy staff - "Do we have a branch of The Bank here in London?" He turned to Brendan Barber, General Secretary of the TUC and said, "You could give us a room here, and we could open a branch and support some of your workers who need to find work.." He said it with a smile, but you could believe it could happen - just as the Venezuelan state oil company is currently donating heating oil to old people's homes and health centres in the USA who can't afford the prices in the USA.

As he left, I had the chance of a few words with him, expressed the support of the Union, and gave him a copy of Phil Katz (from NUT HQ) book "Thinking Hands" about the life, ideas and activities of 19th Century British socialist, William Morris. He said that he knew of him, "but not enough" He went on to say that there is no finer gift than a book, and that when he'd read it he would get in touch with questions.

He finally left the room, but stopped his entourage to shake hands with the people who had served the coffee and tea, and to thank them for a very good meeting. Perhaps this was the calculated act of a populist politician. But it looked like a genuine act of a people's politician to me.

Bill Greenshields

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